The New York Times Magazine was able to get the pain-in-the-butt chef, Kenny Shopsin (of Shopsin’s General Store restaurant), to actually talk about his restaurant on camera. Kenny then explained the idea behind his famous macaroni and cheese pancakes and how the recipe first came about (blame somebody’s indecision).

Anyway, you probably won’t be able to get a seat at Shopsin’s General Store, so just follow this recipe from Kenny on how to make macaroni and cheese pancakes.