I’m telling you, VICE is doing some of the best reporting out there by any media company. This intimate and in-depth 2-part interview speaks to Steve Drain, the Westboro Baptist Church’s main PR man, and to a couple who left the WBC and gets the low-down on what drives this “church” to hate.

It’s long, but so worth your time if you’re even the least bit curious about why this church does what it does and how it’s raising a younger generation to be in their footsteps. Horrifying, raw, and unlike any other interview I’ve seen of WBC members.